The Scole Experiment Session on 24 Aug 1994:
Did Winston Churchill speak with Independent Voice?
The Scole cellar.
Robin Foy, Sandra Foy, Alan Bennett, Diana Bennett.
Manu, Edward, Patrick McKenna, Sir Winston Churchill.
A Communicator, claiming to be (and sounding like) Sir Winston Churchill (1874 – 1965), spoke for 1 min 33 sec with independent energy voice (IEV).
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Patrick won’t mind me
coming in here
to say a word to you tonight
I am delighted to let you know that I am still around.
If there is any call for a strong leader.
I shall do my very best.
But I have to say to you
I have not forgotten
the book which I wish to write.
And it will be brought to you
as time goes by.
And I hope
that you will be in a position
to show my works to the world:
The Adventures of Winston in Wonderland
[SCOLE GROUP LAUGHTER]
I do beg your pardon
for taking up your time
but I am afraid
that I was never one
for standing on the side lines
when I could slip in
and do some work.
God bless you all.
Sir Winston Churchill (30 Nov 1874 – 24 Jan 1965) was a British politician and WWII leader. He was a regular communicator throughout the psychical research career of Robin Foy and Sandra Foy, appearing a number of times when they hosted or attended séances prior to the start of The Scole Experiment. Robin Foy said he had formed a ‘connection to Winnie’ through those many interactions over many years.
The Scole mediums confirm Churchill spoke in an 'independent energy voice'
The Scole trance mediums, Alan Bennett and Diana Bennett, have since confirmed this was an independent energy voice (IEV) communication from Churchill. IEV occurs when a Communicator speaks in their own voice (so they often sound like they did during their earthly life) without use of the physical voice-box of the medium. The voice can come from mid-air or from within the walls or ceiling, or from under the floor, of the séance room. It is one of the five ways the Communicators made their voices heard during The Scole Experiment.
1993-10-04-DIARY: The Scole Experiment began with the 'teleportation' of a Churchill Crown coin
A Churchill Crown coin 'apport' (teleported object) arrived with a thud; having been 'cut' from one [unknown] location in spacetime and 'pasted' into another [known] location – the 'Scole Hole'; the cellar beneath Street Farmhouse in Scole village – on 4 October 1993.
- The phenomena proper started in earnest on Monday 4 October 1993. Due to illness, there were only three of us sitting that evening - Alan, Diana, and I. Through Diana, Manu suddenly announced that he was bringing us an apport, which was a token of greater things to come. Moments later, a thud was heard as something dropped on to the central table, and we afterwards discovered that the apport was actually a coin - a Churchill crown. This was most appropriate for me personally, as those of you who have read In Pursuit of Physical Mediumship will know that, for several years prior to the arrival this apport, I had myself enjoyed frequent and varied communications from Sir Winston Churchill in the spirit world.
Winston Churchill's possible first séance at Dorincourt, London, in 1920s.
- Just before we closed, Emily spoke of a communicator who kept mentioning ‘Dorincourt’. We gathered that this may have been in connection with Dennis Bradley, who lived in a house called Dorincourt at Kingston Vale, near London, and who (together with his family) ran a successful physical circle there in the 1920s. He was also responsible for a best-selling trilogy of books (in diary format) about the special UK sittings at Dorincourt with the American voice medium, George Valiantine; which Bradley organised and sponsored. From an historic point of view, it was at a sitting with George Valiantine - held at Dorincourt in the 1920s - that I believe Sir Winston Churchill attended his first physical séance, when he was the Chancellor of the Exchequer.
A pristine condition Daily Express newspaper apport ('cut and pasted' from 28 May 1945 to 11 July 1994) arrives in the cellar. Manu said it was for Robin 'from one of your spirit helpers'. When the newspaper was seen after the session, the Scole Group saw Winston Churchill's photograph on the front page.
- The next session on Monday 11 July was an extremely interesting one - not so much for the phenomena this time, but for the communications received through the two mediums, both of whom were in a deep trance state throughout the sitting. After Manu’s initial greeting however, an apport was heard to drop on the central table with a loud ‘plop’. Manu told me that this was from one of my own spirit helpers, and that I would understand why this particular item had been chosen!
- When I had the chance to study this apport after the session, it turned out to be an original copy of the Daily Express, dated Monday 28 May 1945. What was even more amazing was that it was in almost mint condition when it arrived, in spite of the fact that it was actually forty-nine years old! It was printed on paper of the type used some years ago for everyday copies of national and provincial newspapers. This paper was made from mechanical wood pulp, which contained a chemical impurity, lignin, that caused the paper to rapidly turn yellow when it came into contact with sunlight and air. But there was no sign of the expected ‘yellowing’ of the newsprint on the apported newspaper. However, just a few weeks later, even after the apported newspaper had been carefully stored away from light and air, it had deteriorated and turned yellow. The three SPR scientists, who sat with us regularly later on, had a sample of this newspaper apport sent to PIRA (the Paper Industry Research Association) where it was thoroughly tested. Their conclusion was that there was no doubt whatsoever that the printed paper was genuine wartime or early post-war newsprint, that had been printed by the Letterpress method, which went out of date many years ago.
- On the front page of this copy of the Daily Express was a photograph of Sir Winston Churchill, whose presence as a spirit helper I certainly understood, since in the past I had received many communications from him.
Mrs Bradshaw 'popped in' to comment on Winston Churchill's possible first séance at Dorincourt
- I [Robin Foy] was told that I would be doing much writing in the future, which would include a number of books. Then Mrs Bradshaw ‘popped in’ to comment on the evidence she was trying to get about Sir Winston Churchill’s visit to Dennis Bradley’s home in the 1920s, in order to attend his first physical phenomena séance.
A Communicator, 'a very strong personality', possibly Winston Churchill, said, 'I was determined to come and be heard!’
- [Communicator] James then announced that there was a very strong personality present, who wanted to make himself known to us. Slowly but surely, a deep stentorian energy voice spoke from a point above the table. The tones were indeed very like those of Winston Churchill, and this time he managed to get through whole sentences we could understand. Quite an improvement from the previous session. He told us ‘I was determined to come and be heard!’ No name was given, but the voice was ‘classic Winston’, complete with the customary ‘slurring’ of certain syllables.
LINKS + MORE
Winston Churchill’s interest in strange phenomena and UFOs makes the cover story in the November 2018 issue of Fortean Times magazine.
Top Secret War chronicles the British Prime Minister’s curiosity about a range of unexplained phenomena during his long career as army officer, politician, wartime leader and writer/journalist.
Richard Nixon is said to have described him as the only political leader in history ‘who has his own crystal ball’.
Many people are familiar with Churchill’s famous 1952 memo to the Air Ministry demanding to know ‘the truth’ about flying saucers.
But fewer know that he ordered the very earliest British government inquiry into a UFO sighting in 1912, when he was First Lord of the Admiralty.
Or that in 1939, as the world stood on the brink of WW2, he took time out to write a lengthy essay on the possibility that ET life existed outside our solar system – and came out to say he believed this was a distinct probability.
Or that he took a personal interest in the controversial prosecution of spiritualist medium Helen Duncan during World War 2, that has been described (wrongly) as the ‘last Witchcraft Trial’.
Is there a common thread linking these disparate expressions of interest? Did Churchill ever learn ‘the truth’ about UFOs? And did he really believe in the existence of supernatural forces, as Major Wellesley Tudor Pole told a friend in 1964?
My research into Churchill’s papers at the University of Cambridge and at The National Archives have thrown up some intriguing clues. Read my article and make up your own mind.
This document is the author deposited version. You are advised to consult the publisher's version if you wish to cite from it. Published version: CLARKE, David (2018). Churchill's secret war. Fortean Times, 372.
Churchill’s most astonishing prediction came when he was 17 years old, as quoted in Sir Martin Gilbert’s In Search of Churchill:
- …I can see vast changes coming over a now peaceful world; great upheavals, terrible struggles; wars such as one cannot imagine; and I tell you London will be in danger—London will be attacked and I shall be very prominent in the defence of London. I see further ahead than you do. I see into the future. This country will be subjected somehow, to a tremendous invasion, by what means I do not know, but I tell you I shall be in command of the defences of London and I shall save London and England from disaster.…dreams of the future are blurred but the main objective is clear. I repeat—London will be in danger and in the high position I shall occupy, it will fall to me to save the Capital and save the Empire.
Sir Martin Gilbert CBE is the official biographer of Winston Churchill and a leading historian of the Twentieth Century
- 30TH INTERNATIONAL CHURCHILL CONFERENCE, WASHINGTON, DC, 1 NOVEMBER 2013
- “If you are the recipient of a message which cheers your heart and fortifies your soul, which promises you reunion with those you have loved in a world of larger opportunities and wider sympathies, why should you worry about the shape or colour of the travel-stained envelope; whether it is duly stamped, whether the date on the postcard is right or wrong?…I adopted quite early in life a system of believing whatever I wanted to believe, while at the same time leaving reason to pursue unfettered whatever paths she was capable of treading.” — Winston Spencer Churchill
The Scole Experiment Afterlife Research Files (The Scole Files) are curated by Grant Solomon and Jane Solomon, authors of The Scole Experiment: Scientific Evidence for Life After Death.
The Scole Tape Notes (in green) above were transcribed by Scole Experiment Afterlife Research Association (SEARA) Associate Alan Middleton, an engineer who volunteered to convert hundreds of the original physical Scole Tape cassettes into digital files.